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Hi All Just saw this article in the health section of the Daily Mail which may be of interest. http://www.dailymail.co....attling-depression.html
Julia
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Thanks for that Julia.
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Thank you, very interesting. Lou x I love people who can make you smile even when you do not feel like smiling. x
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Hi Julia Thank you for pointing us in the direction of this article! Depression is very common amongst RA sufferers for a variety of reasons but often people don't want to accept that they need a little help with the psychological side of things. This is often neglected when we concentrate so much on our more obvious physical needs. Remaining positive can help with endorphin levels; we feel less pain and fewer negative effects of stress. It can become a vicious circle though, we are in pain and unable to do things, we experience stress as a result which in turn causes more physical discomfort. As the article says early treatment is key and we shouldn't be embarrassed to seek help when we need it. Thanks again Julia, Lyn x
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I was reading a post on a facebook group the other day (Not today RA)
Depression is associated with systemic inflammation and autoimmune conditions, including rheumatoid arthritis (RA).
Researchers in Japan studied the relationship between C-reactive protein (CRP), depression, and pain perception in RA patients.
Depression was quantified by the Beck Depression Inventory II. Both inflammation and depression were independently associated with higher levels of pain and more need for treatment.
inflammation may cause depression, or depression may cause inflammation, or both. As one hypothesis, depression may promote poor health habits that lead to infection. In the other direction, inflammation is widely known to produce depressive symptoms in humans and animals, as when a person with the flu shows reduced energy, appetite, and interest in normal activities
numerous studies from the medical literature showing that inflammation and depression have a bidirectional association: either one can activate the other.
Many authors note that pain and disability can be significant factors for depression. But there's more to it: inflammation appears to contribute directly to depressive symptoms.
So which comes first?........inflammation may cause depression, or depression may cause inflammation
Paula
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I take everything published in the mail with a pinch of salt . They may actually be publishing facts for a change .. Thanks :) R:) "The difference between 'involvement' and 'commitment' is like an eggs-and-ham breakfast: the chicken was 'involved' - the pig was 'committed'."
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Hi Paula I think in our case the inflammation comes with the RA, that gets us down and we become depressed. It then becomes a problem as the depression exacerbates the inflammation then we're even more cheesed off and so it goes on. If we deal with one or the other, but preferably both the circle is broken and we should see light at the end of the tunnel  Ah such is life  Lyn x
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Hi Lyn
Thanks for your post. Since I ve had RA I have been trying to get my head around the depression issue, and have avoided take anti depressants as I know why I am low and hopefully when the meds really do their job I will get a good bit of my life back and feel a lot better. I don t think you can help but feel low when the RA isn t under control, and wonder whether taking A D would really help me ? Your thoughts seem to have it summed it, it is a tricky one and from my perspective it doesn t seem to be an issue thought much about by the medical profession.
Julia x
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Thanks for flagging this up, Julia. I must admit, though, to being sceptical of stuff in the Daily Fail!
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I know what you mean Jean ! Its hardly a paper any more, I certainly wouldn t buy it !
Julia x
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